sed non satiata ([info]errabunda) wrote,
@ 2007-07-31 00:29:00
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Dinner with Joss Whedon 07/27
Pictures here, for those of you passing through: http://pics.livejournal.com/errabunda/

I haven’t put up photos of the other winners, as I have no doubt they’ll post them if they wish.

Now, for those of you who asked for details…

I just flew back from Comic-con this morning with this howling cough and a headache that made me wonder if I could do my job with only my left-brain, while my right-brain recuperated in a Petri-dish, so this is the earliest I could make this post… and I’m still not sure if I can articulate anything more than !!!!!!!!!!!

When I arrived in San Diego on Thursday night I went to the Vagabond Inn in Point Loma, which is where you end up when you come out of the airport, see the signs toward downtown and then drive the other way. The Vagabond Inn smells like cigarettes on the inside and fish on the outside and has no working internet. Glamorous.

On Friday, I met up with the other winning bidders at the rendezvous. We were:

* Suzanne Brockman, a writer, and her husband, also a writer.
* Karen, a lyricist active in environmental philanthropy
* Paul, a businessman from the Silicon valley
* myself, a software engineer from the Silicon valley

We were interviewed by IFC News, and I prepped for the interview by watching Suzanne, who did an awesome job, but then they threw me off-course by asking different questions. I hope I didn’t come across as a complete idiot, but Suzanne reassured me they’ll edit for content, so I don’t think I’ll even really show up.

Then Joss showed up. Honestly, my first thought was, “He’s really tall!” And then my brain just stopped working, and did the dance of awe instead. He was wearing a suit, but seemed to have forgotten his tie. Also, sneakers. That reassured me. Here I was, in the presence of a veritable demigod, and he was wearing sneakers.

As we walked toward the restaurant for dinner, Joss commented on my outfit… and really, there is absolutely nothing as validating as having the stamp of shiny from Joss Whedon. Not only is he the brilliant and witty genius behind Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Fray and other things, he is one of the most warm, sensitive, curious and kind people I’ve ever met. He takes such genuine interest in the people around him, their lives and aspirations, and he managed over the course of dinner to draw each one of us out and make us feel comfortable.

We shared stories—our favourite Buffy episodes, characters, moments—and I’ll put mine up here briefly for the record, since it came up and I’m sure whedonesque will connect to this post in a matter of hours. It’s Hush, from Season 4, the episode with half an hour of dialogue silence. Why? Because it was the first episode that made me realize this wasn’t a show I could watch without paying attention while I was chopping vegetables for lunch. The absence of dialogue made me realize how much of television is heard, how often the auditory cues there provide for us a conversational path that is expected—this intonation implies a joke on its way; oh it’s a fight scene, I can do the carrots now—and in Hush, it is not only the characters but the audience who must fumble around in the dark, suddenly having their sensitivity heightened to nuances in people’s faces, having to really focus on communicating. There’s more personal stuff that goes behind my love for the episode, but in general I thought Hush was terrifying, musical, and profoundly lonely, and it was unlike anything I had ever seen on television before.

Other conversation topics: feminism, blood sacrifice and womb envy, lyrics and cadence in Serenity, casting anecdotes, the incredible talent and courteousness of all the actors, the unfathomable depths of Wesley-love, Riley love, Buffy’s relationship with her mother, misogyny, misandry, Stephen Sondheim, Princess Di, religious fanaticism and emotional genuineness, the work of collaborative writing, Xander’s character growth, marriage, relationships in the Joss-verse, myths of romance in the minds of high-school girls, Angel’s foray into the martial arts and its replacement by boxing, the Oedipal nature of Angel S4, ballet, musicals, homophobia and probably a hundred other things I’ve already forgotten.

Dinner was in a private room at a steakhouse in the Gaslamp quarter. Greystone or something, wasn’t paying attention to the name.

The others had to head home after the dinner, since they had not been able to find a place to stay the night, but I was heading to Comic-con the next day. Joss then offered to let me come backstage before the panel, and the next day, when I realized that the room was filled to capacity and they had even closed the waiting line 45 minutes before the panel, but I had somehow ended up in the front row, I was completely overwhelmed. Having never been to Comic-con I didn’t know that people had camped out in front of the room hours beforehand to get a seat, so I felt enormously privileged to be sitting where I was. 

There’s more. At Comic-con, from time to time, the audience would call out names of characters in the Joss-verse. Anya! Wesley! WASH! WASH! Oz! This, I felt, was very different from all the other panels I’d seen. Nobody called for Sarah, David, Emma, Amy or even Joss himself. In other panels, fans screamed out the names of the people onstage, or cheered for the actors. (Although seriously, the number of people screaming “Jensen!” at the SPN panel freaked me the hell out.)  Joss writes characters who are not sock-puppets or soapboxes, characters who take on a life of their own, characters who are so true to themselves and written with such integrity that it is no longer surprising to me that they can come back from the dead. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle once grew jealous of Sherlock Holmes and killed him… and was forced to bring him back, as some characters simply cannot die.  How, after all, can death touch the immortal?

It was a pleasant surprise to me to discover that even in a cruel, and often justly scorned and mocked industry, there are people with such integrity, who have the courage to allow their creations a real and separate existence. It isn’t just Joss, though. The people around him, Scott Allie, Mike, and the others I met, were so helpful and warm and completely unpretentious. Utterly devoted to the work they do, and yet they would never make anyone feel they didn’t have time for them.

And as if my shiny weekend couldn’t get any more shiny, on Saturday night I saw Jewel Staite at the W… and seeing her made me want to slap Simon for his Kaylie-related cluelessness. Then when I returned to the Hyatt, where I was staying, I heard Seth Green was around and tried looking for him. Couldn’t find him, and just as I gave up and started walking toward the elevator I saw him walking past me. I don’t think I could have strung together a single coherent sentence since it was past 1 AM, but still, yay!

Thank you Joss, Scott, Mike, and everyone at Dark Horse, for a ginormously fabulous weekend.

That's all folks!



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[info]selannia
2007-07-31 12:07 pm UTC (link)
Such fun!

So, what did you have for dinner?

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[info]errabunda
2007-08-01 05:15 pm UTC (link)
wasn't really paying attention to the food. soup, salad, seafood and/or pasta of some sort was had.

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[info]andrewisbored
2007-07-31 12:15 pm UTC (link)
Wonderful account. You made my day..^_^

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[info]fransisca
2007-07-31 12:29 pm UTC (link)
Found your post through whedonesque.
Thanks for that wonderful account! I'm so glad for you :)
You just made my day :D

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[info]ancientsong
2007-07-31 12:51 pm UTC (link)
Found you through whedonesque. Thanks for the account. I would have expected no less from these folks. So very happy that you had such a terrific time.

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[info]vampirefan
2007-07-31 01:44 pm UTC (link)
wonderful description of your dinner. it sounds just as shiny as i imagined it would be!

thank you so much for posting!

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[info]harmalicious
2007-07-31 02:04 pm UTC (link)
Wow, you guys hit all the fun subjects. If only I could be a fly on the wall :)

Did Joss tell you guys all the fantastic news prior to the panel or were you just as surprised as everyone else?

And Joss is right...you look fantastic! Thanks so much for this wonderful account of your weekend.

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[info]errabunda
2007-08-01 05:16 pm UTC (link)
thanks! and yes, he had told us about some of his current efforts, so it was nice to see everyone at comic-con was as excited as we were about them.

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[info]harmalicious
2007-08-01 05:17 pm UTC (link)
Wonderful, you lucky gal. It's on my list of things to do before I die....meet Joss!!!

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[info]terranceteitle
2008-08-11 07:19 pm UTC (link)
It's on my list of thingd to do. It's been there since I turned 18 and in 7 months I'll turn 20 so I think I should get started on that take care Posted am Comments | Sign up to post comments.

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[info]parkerlindesay
2008-08-11 07:27 pm UTC (link)
It's on my list of thingd to do. It's been there since I turned 18 and in 7 months I'll turn 20 so I think I should get started on that take care Posted am Comments | Sign up to post comments.

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[info]tannerlily
2008-08-11 06:41 pm UTC (link)
He was so excited to see what we were doing, it was beginning to achieve that unique look that he was hoping for us to come up with.

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Returning from the dead?
(Anonymous)
2007-07-31 02:41 pm UTC (link)
So I take it characters returning from the dead was talked about. Perchance I wonder if a certain blonde witch was mentioned?

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[info]elgrey
2007-07-31 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much for sharing your experience of dinner with Joss and posting this wonderful account. I've been longing to know what was discussed. I'm so glad you had such a terrific time.

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[info]ellacinders
2007-07-31 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Before I read this, I expected to be consumed by jealousy. Don't get me wrong, I'm still very jealous! ;) But your account is so warm, generous and intelligent that I can't help but think you deserved every single moment of your time with Joss Whedon. <3 I'm happy you had such a wonderful time.

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[info]teint_de_neige
2007-07-31 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Hi H. :)

I expected to be jealous as well. And I am. But thank you for sharing your experience! It seems that it couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

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[info]errabunda
2007-08-01 06:20 pm UTC (link)
thanks, that means a lot. i still don't think i deserved it, and i keep pinching myself and staring at the pics to convince myself it really happened.

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Thanks! and a bakery near the Vagabond
[info]crankyotter
2007-07-31 10:24 pm UTC (link)
As a Suz and Joss fan, I've been dying for word on this dinner. Thanks for giving me a little glimpse. I wouldn't have posted, though, except that I (through no fault of my own) wound up staying at the Vagabond Inn a couple years ago. It's nothing much but it was cheap and had a fridge and microwave. And the staff was friendly and fixed any issue we brought to them. Best of all, it was a very short walk to a FABULOUS BAKERY called Con Pane at the corner of Rosecranz and Canon/Canyon. So if you wind up back there (through no fault of your own), head over toward Shelter Island post office and go to this bakery. Not that you need to eat when you're floating on cloud 9. I'm too happy for you even to be jealous.

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Re: Thanks! and a bakery near the Vagabond
[info]errabunda
2007-08-01 05:17 pm UTC (link)
hehe, i doubt i will ever intentionally go to point loma again, but thanks for the info!

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[info]tijnat
2007-08-01 01:51 am UTC (link)
Thanks for sharing your account of the dinner with Joss. You have a lovely writing style - and you look beautiful in your chosen outfit.

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[info]emmiegray
2007-08-01 02:09 am UTC (link)
Here from Whedonesque...
Thank you so much for posting, letting us experience this vicarioulsy, and with pictures! I hope you hang up that lovely outfit in a frame on your wall. Congratulations on getting to go to this once-in-a-lifetime event, and of course, supporting Equality Now. Joss rocks, and so do his fans.

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[info]wicked_goddess
2007-08-01 09:11 am UTC (link)
Here from Whedonesque. So awesome, thanks for sharing!

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[info]chrisleeoctaves
2007-08-01 10:16 am UTC (link)
Thanks for sharing this experience. Joss gets dumped on a lot for not doing things the way people thought he should. For my part- the man changed my life in ways to numerous to count and I will worship every day at his altar for giving me Buffy and Angel.

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[info]human_loser
2007-08-01 04:03 pm UTC (link)
stumbled over from whedonesque. Good story, well told! I'm generally terrified to meet people whose work I idolize because I don't want to be disappointed if they're jerks or something. Good to know at least one of them isn't!

Also? Joss Whedon talked about Sondheim? I'm ODing on teh geek!

Thanks for sharing!

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[info]kessadebra
2007-08-01 04:05 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for a great account and thanks for being so down to earth!

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[info]elizalavelle
2007-08-02 11:02 am UTC (link)
I'm here via Whedon info. Thanks so much for posting about your dinner, I was very curious to hear how this event went. It sounds like it was fabulous!

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Oh Radha...
[info]myshi
2007-08-03 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Why does this seem so normal for you? :) I hope you appear in the next Buffy comic.

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[info]fajrdrako
2007-08-07 01:21 pm UTC (link)
Thanks so much for describing your dinner -I'd have enjoyed it for the conversation alone, regardless of who it was with. But Joss Whedon - and everyone else sounds interesting too - how wonderful!

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Funny quote
(Anonymous)
2008-05-07 10:12 am UTC (link)

Money cannot buy love, nor even friendship.


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Hello
(Anonymous)
2008-08-17 04:31 pm UTC (link)
I'm new here, just wanted to say hello and introduce myself.

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